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From: Robert Cohen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: an idea how LW users can try break in "da'biz"
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On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, Adam Ives chrystie wrote:
>
>   Hiya Robert! I think we've chatted on IRC a few times.
>
RE Adam ;)


>      It is simple you need to team up with another LW animator in your
> area..make a good demo tape...not soe cheesy 10 second clip..or not even a
> sting of 10 second clips...a story of some sort with cause and effect.....I
> do not see how anyone could do anything with a sole 030...too sloww..modeler
> alone used to make me insane.

Well, while I am extremely limited on how complex my animations are
(can't animate Babylon five stuff ), I have no real problem animating
basic run of the mill flying logos.  Sure it takes me 3 or 4 days rather
than an hour and a half, but to get started makin some $$ while I do the
day gig anyway..... I can be patient.  If only I could find those video
studios / lower end industrials that are willing to part the 5 or 6
hundred dollars for a slick 3D logo, I would be able to purchase my own
rendering powerhouse in half a year or so...

I had taken the time some months back to put together a database of local
production oriented businesses in my neck of the woods.  I created an
easy to understand "fax" flyer offer a demo and the promise of some very
competitive pricing..  I put GPFax to work one evening and did some
follow ups the next week...  Out of 150 faxes (testing my market), I got
two replies for a demo and not a single job...  Now, I did not expect to
make a killing out of 150 names, but one job would certainly have been a
motivation to keep going with this line of advertising.

My current demo happens to be my first.  It's not the best I have seen,
but I have seen alot worse.  And, I would tend to agree with you about a
story line format rather than the "string a bunch of stuff together"
format that I took this time around.  (Thanks for the idea).


> how;s this idea..an internet  co-op animation group...find some people who
> are good modelers..people who make their own objects..we can all recycle
> what's on the net..but sooner or later people gotta copy a design which the
> client gives them...find a few people who are good with layout..walla yopu
> have the makings right there...they send back the data to the home base
> machine..this machine renders it and outputs it to video...or composites
> it..whatever..all data can be sent via encoded mail...diagrams to the
> modelers..etc...
>

Yeah, actually, I had thought of that, but I am finding that the people
who already have to hardware that can effeciently crank out anims, don't
need those who do not...  They have already got the financial pump primed
and can afford to hire out directly whatever they can't do themselves.
I don't see much of a difference in creating a "joint venture" arrangment
or simply hiring out what you need when you need it, as long as the
client is going to foot the bill anyway...  This does not mean that I am
against joining forces with anyone who is also in my shoes, or perhaps
has the gear but not enough time to do everything..  Networking is the
single most important issue for anyone in our field...  In fact, this is
the primary reason I have internet access !!

You will find that the majority of "US" are simply very willing to help
the next guy, even without a formal, pre-arranged deal...  And that's
good for all of us, but what I need a an idea (that works) for
advertising to the 'low end" market that won't take a truck full of money
to pull off..  I am starting with redoing my demo (which is probably
going to be an ongoing process anyway) , but am now stuck with what to do
with it after it is complete....


>     i think it is going to be a while before we see "Wanted LW animators for
> new animation house"...cuz there just aren't many of us...
>

I think with the porting that NewTek is doing to all the major platforms,
this is going to change with time; Assuming that NewTek is not in as much
trouble as the gossip is suggesting.  CGI users are no different than
anyone else...  They use what they use because they truly believe that it
is the best that they can have for the money, and they are so comfortable
with their tools, that it's just easier to keep using their existing
wares, than to jump into another learning curve feet first.  As more and
more companies purchase Lightwave based machines, and as mor LW
junkies are created,  I expect the LW animator will be in big demand.

If YOU decide to try and create this Inet co-op, do let me (us) know.  I
am certainly not disinterested, but rather do not have the desire to
initiate this on my own... ;)

And thanks for the reply..... Catch ya in IRC...;)


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